Playing Deltarune for the first time since Chapter 2 came out and holy shit the slop is way gayer and lamer than I remember, how did I ever enjoy this cringey humour?
>bro just noticed this even though he didnt notice from undertales writing all those years ago I think you have bigger issues than just deltarune bucko
its probably because toby took his sweet ass making it and its still not fucking done. I will be fucking bald by the time he finishes the game at least its more to show than yandev but still
>>321114 But I played it for the first time earlier this year out of interest in The Hundred Line, and now consider it my favorite VN series behind When They Cry.
Dumblertale: >heckin' wholesome quirk chungas characters who always get along and never capable as so much as a grudge >all villain characters are just future allies who will never do anything truly unforgivable >safe, blatantly self-censored "edgy" scenes carefully designed to never actually offend anyone >only "aroace/nonbinary" relationships >world has no consistency, literally anything can happen. the 4th wall breaking isn't clever.
Danganchadpa: >exaggerated personalities, but they are still real characters, they have their own opinions and worldviews, allowed to have conflict >good characters are good, evil characters are evil >as edgy as the writer wants it to be, normies flip out at the game sexualizing a child rape victim as a joke in Ultra Despair Girls. >very heterosexual, outside of the relatively uncommon designated fujobait scenes that never lead to anything. (women buy the most merch) protagonist always has a love interest. >the murder mysteries operate under a consistent set of rules and are quite clever.
I wouldn't even touch this shit with a 10 foot stick. Let alone actually playing it. You must have been punished to play this game. Like it's no me being a сhud or hating tobi fagz it's just like... icky.
>>321116 >But I played it for the first time earlier this year out of interest in The Hundred Line, and now consider it my favorite VN series behind When They Cry.
When i found out that some person who i known is "playing" VNs its like this person is instantly relegated to being a subhuman in my eyes. Like it's such a gruesome fall from grace. Its like a based aryan antitrans pepegod is transitioning to they/them.
>>321123 that's true, but it hits different when we know you're a disgusting neckbeard irl so its kind of a glass houses type of argument when it comes from an uggo like you, they're only subhumans by actions while you're one by default
>>321123 Theres a difference between cringe vn's (07thslop, SciAdv, Nasushit) tho and based ones (Dies irae, muramasa, demonbane, KeyG E Ms, yume miru kusuri, the list goes on)
>>321128 albeit you snuck dies irae and demonbane in there soulful vns consist of, comic party, family project, luckydog1, nienomachi, teikoku sensenki, chusingura and so on and so on
>>321131 its one of the multiple decisive factors, when you stack it together with innate brilliance of aforementioned vidyanovels, i think you would be wise to categorise them as supermeepermers
>>321158 I shaved it with a 9mm tip. I used the same electric shaver for my beard except for the beard I didnt use the tips >>321159 That would be too fruity
With how homoerotic I think this community is, it's kind of weird to see it hate on deltarune and undertale. Though the newest chapters felt a bit sloppy or maybe rushed imo.
Chapter 3 and 4 are peak though Also (chapter 4 spoilers): [spoiler]i think rape allegory on the weird route was intended, albeit not in a literal way. there's a lot of buildup for this since chapter 2 and most likely it is all da gastor who offers us such choices so we fulfill the prophecy with Noelle or something. [/spoiler]
>>321201 I worded it a bit wrong, but still Asgore implied to still have attachments to Toriel, which might be unhealthy and lead to the next chapter conflict Also there is Kris whose mood was utterly ruined by seeing his mother (who, mind you, is only reliable adult for him) being drunk with a random man she met just two days agp or so and "jitterbugging" all night Sans unknowingly escalated the situation
Just finished Undetrale pacifist route and now I remember why its so beloved. Its 1000% sincere. It might act "cringe" at times but it doesn't care. It never acts irony poisoned or cynical towards itself. Its so heartfelt and touching. Asriel fight is pure cinema.
>>321210 Pixel art is popular for indie bcuz its a cheap and relatively easy way for small teams to make a good looking game with style + nostalgia. More recently the ps1 style has gotten popular for many of the same reasons.
Isnt Deltarune just Persona 4? Think about it. >A mystery man in a small town is sending people to a dangerous world >First creature we encounter in said dark world is a furry, friendly character that joins the party as a healer >Party composed of High School friends that journey into these dark worlds, the composition of these world usually bringing personal development to the characters trapped inside (Susie in ch 1, Noelle and Bredly in ch 2) >Powers that only work inside of the dark world >The animation for jumping into the tv and entering a dark world is literally the same My GOAT Kris looks cool as an edgy anime character
The combat for deltarune is really addicting (when it comes to the hard bosses). Its just dopamine hit after dopamine hit when you get that satisfying kranch of a perfect attack, and get to the point where youre dodging hard patterns perfectly and spamming out rude busters every turn. Gambling on nkt needing to heal. Its sooo good bruh.
>>321111 (OP) >detatroon All's I know about Deltatroon is some funny midget puppet Jew tries to steal some emo Twinks heart to gain UNLIMITED POWER in order to have his vengeance against god and ad block who punished him with schizophrenia for selling god a shitty time chair or crypto scam or whatever and also because he wanted to see the surface or whatever to re-unite with his gay lover I guess? Fuck if I know lmao.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I'm pretty spot on, also something something about all the major bosses being the stages of grief or whatever.
>>321252 The secret bosses and a lot of Deltarune is about FREEDOM. Jevil sees the world as a game, so "he can do anything". And any action he takes is just "playing the game". Spamton wants to be free from his puppet strings and be a big shot. Parallels Kris by literally being a puppet. Ramb tells Kris that they should be "free" to play the kind of game they want. Leading to a secret game that hints on how to do the snowgrave route. Which is itself about freedom. Trying to break the prophecy and the player asserting itself more and acting on its own. Even to the point where you can kill off a character and be acknowledged as a separate entity from Kris by Noelle. Gerson also continues the theme of freedom by constantly smashing pieces of the prophecy, talking about how sometimes its funner to take the "wrong" path and directly asking Susie how she wants the story to end. This culminates in the end where she becomes determined to break the prophecy and make her own ending.
>>321252 >something about all the major bosses being the stages of grief I don't think that's true. Also Spamton (the boss you are talking about) is a optional boss and not super important to the plot of the game.
Capitalism lords over and humiliates men. It thrusts hierarchy onto them and teaches them to apply this to their families on a smaller scale. Just as in the snowgrave route, the soul completely controls and dominates Kris, Kris is forced to by the soul control and dominate Noelle. And it is also worth mentioning that Noelle and Kris are 2 queer characters who are made to, by forces completely outside their control, engage in an abusive heteronormative relationship.
>>321230 >You're a low t emasculated sexual failure eunuch I literally get approached by strange women in public. >>321266 >Capitalism lords over and humiliates men. It thrusts hierarchy onto them and teaches them to apply this to their families on a smaller scale So "capitalism" is a term that stands for the natural order of the world.
>>321266 Futanari lords over and humiliates men. It thrusts hierarchy into them and teaches them to apply this to their families on a smaller scale. Just as in the cumgrave route, the clitty cage completely controls and dominates Kris, Kris is forced to by the clitty cage control and dominate Noelle. And it is also worth mentioning that Noelle and Kris are 2 heterosexual characters who are made to, by forces completely outside their control, engage in an abusive futaronormative relationship.
>>321276 The idea of the family unit is a very recent one used to secure Inheritance and enforce hierarchies. It has changed a lot since its inception and nothing about it shows permanence.
>>321283 I admit the picture Yugoslav posted makes sense, afterall you can see how development of science and art declined during medieval era and it was because of poverty.
In short: you can't make art when you die from hunger
But man is DELTARUNE PEAK FICTION. Putting aside the 10/10 soundtrack, 10/10 characters, 10/10 fights, 10/10 humor. It has such peak story elements and metanarrative. The overarching theme of freedom ties really well with the weird route. Where you use your knowledge of future events and saving + loading to break free yourself and deviate from the prophecy. Seemingly breaking the game at certain points. The parts where the game seem to break when you look for the eggs and in the weird route are really cool in general. Plus the increased significance of goners and gaster (cool analogues for cut content. some sort of ghost in the machine). Really gives you that feeling of being a kid and being obsessed with those glitches and rumors of shit hiding in games. Like finding mew under the truck, keeping aerith alive or opening some forever locked door. While still being integrated into the greater narrative in a cool way. There's tons of other stuff too like the Kris+Soul dynamic, references to gnosticism, theorizing about the motivations of the soul (Why do we specifically need Noelle to be stronger? Does it have something to do with Noelle's strong association with the Angel?), the plotting going on with carol + the roaring knight, how the deltarune world is seemingly some sort of "experiment" by gaster (really everything about that guy) etc. etc.
There really isn't any other game like it out right now.
>>321269 >I literally get approached by strange women in public. You appeal to women with an overdeveloped maternal instinct with your pathetic, manchild character. It is not lust, but pity.
>>321306 His dezign is so KINO. Fully enclosed his heart in hard, metal, thorny shell. A ruthless murderer. Opens his heart in adoration and worship...
>>321312 Its not the FUCKING same. I don't want to contribute to some demonic pedophiles incest brainwash baby. Miyazaki MURDERED covenants in the womb and i won't forgive him. Gravelording was too cool.
>>321313 >Miyazaki MURDERED covenants in the womb and i won't forgive him. Gravelording was too cool. true but you`re still an incel georgedybutt for hating on based femboys and paedogods
>>321317 Quelaag and Kirk did NOTHING wrong. They only hunted humans who were trying to ring the bell and fulfill the prophecy, a pointless endeavor that even goes against humanity's best interests. Stupid creatures. Most of them will go hollow anyways. Better to not let that humanity go to waste.