No.4826
I've been wondering if it's over again, I'm never sure if this place or the tf2 server will disappear first, but this place can remain alive with low amounts of activity while tfshitty can't, in the past when things were grim here I considered it fine that this place be a shell community for art and conversations instead of taking off, that's how I hope it goes if this continues
People feel disappointed these days since the posts per day continued reaching new heights often sometime until a few weeks ago, but no interesting and meaningful ('goated') people like the existing bintoids turned up, and when the site becomes relatively inactive again it stings the people here since there's no progress
This site spent many months of it's existence way below these levels but things going this way suggests to people that we can't break out of the hood and become a sensational thing, it was mind boggling to reach 1000 posts and we average 2k/wk now but the writing is on the wall despite that
I think the tf2 server might be cooked, I could talk about it for ages but if it comes to the server will be left on, the chances of seeing meaningful activity will be close to 0
bnat is way more important than that but I did everything I could till now, sometimes I've treated it in a sink or swim manner but that was just experimentation to help the site become sustainable, I sent this website to 400+ people I've known personally since November, the soycuck touhou fans are cool and the 4chan banners did really well, but it hasn't become highly sustainable and able to maintain huge levels of activity, it's best to call it out and get ready for whatever the status quo becomes
In this thread you may discuss the current state of /bant/: requests, concerns, suggestion, thoughts, complaints, boot licking
No.4827
To expand on the part about goated people, I should mention that the tf2 server seems devastated by the same problem: western otaku average on being ants, every goated person (high IQ, experienced, well read, interesting, productive, nice fragrance) that could've shown up appears to already be in the environment or will never know it exists, you can only pray there's a light at the end of the tunnel where likeminded genius chads come flooding in (or accrue over time) but even the more reasonable depiction is fantasy. A friend (who is too shy to post) warned me that westoid otaku culture is inherently inferior, cannot be saved and does not need to be, and that everything may just be wasted time at my expense
I wrote this thread on another board then moved it here which put it below the bump order which is kinda funny since it looks cucked, I'll comment quickly on the tf2 server then move on
No.4828
most people here and even there aren't in the know but it went through a boom and bust cycle from late june 2022 to sometime this year, it accidentally changed in format and experienced mass immigration and controversy, the IQ average of the community plummeted and the vibrant new people created massive discord issues, everyone before that point time averaged on being a really high IQ and worthwhile white or latino guy that had used imageboards for a long time, everyone after averaged on being illiterate and low IQ, nature took it's course and the server almost blew itself up a few times, the main issue was kiwifarmer and groyper type people infiltrating the community, their leadership looked at the situation and felt it was possible to knock me out and seize the server community with coordination and orchestrated drama, they actually got really far but started infighting and killed themselves a year ago, after that there weren't many issues, but most of the community is bored and plays a fraction as much, the game isn't very alive in general, there's no one interesting and valuable left to discover the server, and the low IQ + apathy damaged the infastructure the server had managed to develop, so these look like the final days to me, the server will be left on should it come to, it happens to be full right now but I suppose everything related to bant may be ending
No.4829
super sonic new rule.jpg
No.4830
what is blud yapping about :skull:
No.4831
>>4829That's about what I was thinking now, I felt pretty good after evaluating it in depth and talking to friends elsewhere, making a thread like this spreads catharsis to others and reduces expectations
>>4830You are toast midget
No.4834
>>4833cagie will do the opposite of make bbc king
>>4832I think it's fine but our expectations got very high and clouded the fundamentals
No.4835
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sprinting to the page 50
No.4836
>>4835okay but this is funny though
No.4839
>>4828Concerning the server specifically: I think banttf2 is fine. While I've noticed a decline in both randoms and regulars, this is a natural plateau imo. This server is much more resilient than most due largely to loose rules and an emphasis on freedom of expression combined with a strong userbase identity. If you want to bring in newfags, try doing more adverts on 4chan, scouting (poaching) users from other servers, and I think things will eventually go back to normal.
While I'm definitely not in favor of censorship its also worth noting that between cunny discussion and 'cism the server chat alone can scare off a lot of newfags. Just an observation.
Overall, kogastopia is definitely not in its golden age anymore, but it has a unique set of strengths (namely, a complete absence of infighting and drama) that i think will allow it to persevere despite setbacks
No.4841
Follow-up: also its worth noting a lot of the guys who play here now joined around a holiday (namely, from between thanksgiving and halloween). Autumn in general is when tf2 player numbers grow bigly due to scream fortress so maybe stick it out for a bit until next fall and see if you can boost playercount around that time
No.4842
>>4840I remember you writing this stuff when the slovakian came up, it was kinda funny in the negative way, it's illogical to assume that there would be much variety but the amount that the site has is unprecedented, it's only possible to survive and get anywhere by sticking to touhou, other subjects are way, way less popular online, there are no imageboards left standing (cmon, sharty, kohlchan, really?) and the internet is very centralized now, a crumb of anything else is dragged in here by touhou fans happening to be interested in them or by random chance, it's been a pretty exceptional performance
>>4841tf2 is at best like gohan okay, it's just whatever, almost everything interesting there moved here and the relationships here are way older, the only caveat is that it's important to a huge number of people and the relationships will die once the hang out spot is gone, another thing is that it's valuable property since there are no tf2 servers left (that's why the kiwifarmers tried to assassinate me, I'm so interesting and important that it's just crazy) but I only care about that part since it's useful to bolster this place, to clarify, the server won't be shut off since I'm loaded, it's just possible to become empty all the time
No.4847
Dont know about the tf2 server because i only played there like 3 times in my life, but i dont think /bantculture/ is losing any activity anytime soon desu. Its in a pretty nice spot as it is actually, not truly dead like, say 9ball in its last days (or luckychan on its only day of existance), but not blindingly fast either. Of course more posters is always good, but to attract truly massive amounts of posters you`ll have to cater to lowest caste of the internet, just look at 4cucks /b/ for example to see the correlation between speed/quality. You could say that there are other boards which are faster and have less trash, but they usually have their own topic not allowing cancer to take over. bbckultur on other hand maybe doesnt have a lot of posters but instead has a stable community without anyone leaving at its core leaving and shit, the only notable poster who did was the swede maybe.
No.4848
>>4844I didn't actually doctor that one teehee
>>4843If those concepts from bant1 were generic and sanitized it wouldn't have the interest of high IQ people and would've fizzled out fast or never existed, there's an extent to which it's contrived but the main issue is that westerners have a crisis of being uninteresting and inept which prevents them from having good things, outside of networking with people (that means cording and variants) I've only encountered worthwhile westerners from bant1 in the past and consider everything from then to now a chance for english speakers to have positive things
>>4847That's all true and the information should assist with smelling the roses, also the swede left on good terms
No.4849
>>4826what can be said about the Japanese core
the culture there and its state nowadays
I guess one of the issues could be inexposure to the "metropolis"
shame on me I don't know much about the realities there, ignorance is the mother of evils
No.4853
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This is what happens to blue midchive girls
No.4854
>>4833Forgot to quote
>>4853 No.4855
>>4853that's what happened to germany
No.4856
>>4852It should be okay in all honesty, even the sticky will go back to normal later
No.4857
>>4842>there are no imageboards left standing (cmon, sharty, kohlchan, really?)I mean, there are a few good ones I frequent but I rather gatekeep and keep them free from BBC spammers and other idiots who ruin things for everyone
>another thing is that it's valuable property since there are no tf2 servers left (that's why the kiwifarmers tried to assassinate me, I'm so interesting and important that it's just crazy)Sure dude, and I'm a high priest in the catholic clergy. I think you're overthinking things and overvaluing yourself. I'm sure this egotistical shit and all this "high IQ" talk is some epic inside joke but honestly, for someone who's mostly an outsider who likes touhou, this kind of rhetoric is embarassing. Egos sink ships.
bnat is fine as is and can only grow if the quality improves, "high" IQ news/social media slop threads and racebait aren't going to do that.
No.4859
>>4841Scream Fortress absolutely raped the server last year. Even people who helped #save and, who I consider positive to the server, were off doing contracts.
No.4860
>>4859I think it's no big deal now, the average is back to being people hating tf2 outside of gasa and it was trending in that direction last year, October is practically a millenia away
No.4862
pph rate is useless if it is maintained by few people, board felt less dead when it had ~200 posts a day few months ago.
in its current state 'ture is bloated af, i realized it when i was playing with abstractions for whalerpg gui recently. basically, at launch there were 2 boards (with only one being real) and 10 pages (12 threads per page) on each and it worked well because any shit thread could be easily slid off the log in a few days. now it is like 5 boards and 50 pages (15 threads per page) on the main board and shit threads are being bumped endlessly. on contrary /v/hu is just a single thread and it works better than todays bant simply because shit posts don't stay for months. and it is more touhou related than modern bant is, lol.
2/3 of the catalog is utter shit ie meta, politics, blogposting, l**kism so i propose drastically cutting down the amount of pages on the main board, 20 - 25 would be enough.
>what about good threads, they will be more vulnerable to being slid by spam
i have no idea if you can do it on vichan, but basically you can mark good threads such as the drawthread so they are not being slid off the log if they at the end when the new thread is created, instead we say goodbye to the last regular thread on the catalog.
No.4864
>>4863Why are you avatarfagging as a guinea pig
No.4866
>>4862The solution seems shrimple, maybe i havent thought about it enough but wouldn't tightening the hourly thread limit theoretically solve this issue? That way people would gain the mindset that each and every thread they post should be substantive or otherwise conducive to conversation
No.4867
>>4841>>4859To add a little more I think the server had a lot of extra support around that timeframe from people who genuinely cared and had the skills to manage things and teach others. I'm not super active due to irl but I think that is a bit gone now.
>>4828But also had support from people who may have still been attempting a coup. Which might also be gone.
I think the tf2 server can survive albeit with less activity. I only see a slow bleed of tf2 players losing interest in the game. Maybe some tradefags will infiltrate Valve to protect their investments via game updates. Workshop niggers could try something too. Only ways I could see tf2 getting actually meaningful content desu.
No.4869
>>4868
Uhhh….is that you, kween?
No.4870
>>4868
>zhe's from flouride-a
oh nonononono
No.4871
>>4862I think rules and quality controls are unnecessary unless you're in bad company and that it's only about the average quality of the people within, the german asked me a few times towards the start to program it like futaba where threads are pruned by inactivity/being below certain post thresholds but the impulse to create it didn't come over me since if the website quality is self destructive it's due to the users being unable to manage themselves, putting diapers on them is disrespectful, as a person I would rather experience loss for my stupidity rather than have the moderator try to wrangle me, however the purpose of this thread was to try something new and outside of the status quo to collect data, I'll implement a pruning system for dead threads/create invulnerable threads and reduce the page count to that level once it's been going for a while
Also: the users on this site are often pretty dumb, I think it's funny (bad way) that they dump media without chatting with eachother, it extends to necrobumping and borderline empty posts, they make the website feel empty, since this thread is about honesty it's constructive to mention it and it may alter the actions of others, despite the negative words it's a homogeneous population and would feel loss with the site gone so I know it's possible for people to feel something and act
No.4872
>>4868
>what if you copied heyuri and had a "notifications cord" where a webhook posts in a chat every time theres a new reply on the 'culture, only then improve on their design by advertising the server on disboard under touhou and imageboard and 4chan tag or something
That's something but I see looking into an advertisement stream during conceptual issues to be misplaced, it would be moreso something to consider once the website is stable, for now the people inside (there's technically a lot) have to sort themselves out and if they make it through I could consider such a stream, however I'm a sperg and not specced much into discord so I don't see it as foreseeable despite sharing philosophy above
No.4875
>>4868Oh yeah a lot of interesting otaku are really shy and not compatible with or able to change imageboards, I only find online interaction to be easy over imageboards but if a high IQ demographic does X or Y it requires respect and analysis, that part is just how it is
>>4873That's soooooo not you, I think to approach it logically it's standard for people to share media but if people have few interests and shallow tastes it rises to the top
No.4876
>loli banned from posting
>kikes complaining about loli are no permabanned on sight
>100 threads with frogs
>100 threads with screaming bald men doodles
same or even worse than 4cuck
No.4877
>>4876Your opinions are as valid as a trans women
No.4880
>>4876It's a loli centric website but I'm not interested in hosting pornography and porn dumps do more harm than good because a large demographic of interesting posters dislike them, the demographic of pro porn people remain here because the rules are actually quite lax towards it on top of there being nowhere else to go
>100 threads with frogs and bald menThe sharty is unusable and it's userbase from before 2023 was completely annihilated and replaced with low functioning autistics and third world kids, if you don't view them as completely dead and get mad anyway it's your own fault, the pepe frogs are the same, bant1 is terrible and they stopped being much of a thing once we left because they lost interest, the soyjak and pepe community are at a total loss so it doesn't matter, also, soyjaks are very uncommon/usually removed
No.4882
>>4881It's okay when people with vibrant personalities do it
No.4891
Host a huge battle royal irl and the prize is becoming an anime girl
No.4894
>>4892It is usually just gross pictures
No.4896
>>4892either futas or traps
No.4898
>>4884Okay if you're tongue-in-cheek calling whalestickers guilty of this I disagree because it's conveying intention and the stickers make people happy, for the other possibility however I must rephrase that media dumping is normal but people can lack critical thinking and end up doing it too much which is an uninteresting and devoid thing
>>4892I was gonna post a video of spiderman saying "I am so sick of you mouthbreathing knuckledraggers" but that's not really what I feel since the people here are entertained by you even though I have to keep an eye out
No.4899
this website has a low pph most of the time unless you're planning to advertise it on places like Instagram or something
Forums are dead and everyone uses popular social media apps nowadays
No.4900
>>4898You secretly love girl penis. You can't reveal to the public out of fear of being disbanded from the party of Christian gokubros
No.4902
>>4901You love kissing boys
No.4904
>>4899When the website was very active I worried the existing nature and personalities were being diluted and weren't actually benefiting from immense activity
No.4905
>>48934chanx can only do that because of 4chan archives so when you use 4chanx with vichan nothing happens
No.4906
>>4898no sir, I posted it to show my mood because I do it myself sometimes (dumping)
No.4907
>>4904When was the last time where one of bant's personalities did something that became the main topic? even if itwas only for a few minutes
Nothing ever happens, the most engaging activity that did appear in the last few months is some blog posting and yeah
There was this guy who made the whale game but it seems like he gave up
No.4908
>>4907im still here, i will deliver the game one day, the main thing is i can't properly focus on it rn. i think ill go full offline late june for like a month to finish it
No.4909
>>4907You can't hold people at gunpoint and make them do something interesting even if these are mostly the coolest people I know, occasionally something interesting happens like when morocco drew higanbana sonic fanart or when I flew to america but all of those things happen naturally, I think you're your usual negative self even if this thread exists due to issues
>>4908See people run out of juice naturally, it's not worth rolling over and dying for
No.4910
>>4909>You can't hold people at gunpoint and make them do something interestingThen everything got answered
I haven't read any of the text walls btw and just assumed you were asking for suggestions on how to revive this place
I think it being a small friend group kind of thing is the better choice because I can't imagine this place gaining any traction unless something big happens
No.4911
>>4910Were you a bundle of sunshine before I gave you that one signature or was this the norm
At least we've gotten to chat with eachother
No.4912
>>4858Yes and? It's a problem. I'm sorry you're actually retarded.
No.4913
>>4911I'm not lolkek if you're still confused
No.4914
>>4913That's crazy but you're at least like a clone of him so you've been a substitute for his philosophical values while I consider mortal things, if I were normal I would assume you're trolling but I take people at face value
No.4915
>>4914It is crazy for me that you keep confusing me as him
I'm the chiken raqi btw
Also ive talked with lolkek and hes nothing like me so thats weird
No.4916
>>4915That means that I've only interacted with lolkek in private and always thought you were him, that's funny
I remember you saying at the start in some argument thread that it should be small and shouldn't attempt going beyond it, I wonder if it'll reach that point and remain stable or disappear, this thread ran it's course mostly though, I think there's nothing to chat about
No.4920
>>4916>That means that I've only interacted with lolkek in private and always thought you were himI do remember correcting multiple times in 4chan's bant and i did here as well
>I wonder if it'll reach that point and remain stable or disappearHonestly, i doubt that it will reach this point, not to be negative or anything, but there is really nothing that would kinda force someone to stay here, you would look here to check what your friends are doing, kind of thing. If you're really looking to see it gaining traction, then you could only replace the userbase, and turn it more into a poltard containment website or something like this because most altchans ive seen are quite dead
No.4921
>>4871>this thread is about honestyhonestly, i don't really believe this place has any potential anymore. the only reason why im still here is because i slipped into a light psychosis late february and still didn't make way out of it, my internal clock stopped somewhere around this time, i don't remember those 3 months at all. ideas that make total sense now stop making any few hours later. when i wake i don't remember how i got into bed as i were boozing yesterday.
before saying you will implement this or that think for a second, will it really do any good. i still can see minor patterns, but really struggle to see major ones nowadays, so i can only give you a technical solution, that will, yeah, look believable, but will it really solve the problem?
have you ever thought why does bant have so many slavs, mainly russians now? google "time preference". in short, eastern euros are unable to plan the nearest future. the only german bant2 had is (a) nowhere to be seen now, (b) volga german. i don't see many us flags investing their time into this board, two most active ones are the half-indian and the mexican. had bant2 any future we would see more white people here (no, slavs are not yt, at least mentally they are not)
No.4925
sameflagging is cringe
wordfilters annoying
futa gay
soy cancer
theres no aya SUKUSUKU sticker
yep the board is doomed
No.4926
>>4921>before saying you will implement this or that think for a second, will it really do any good.I agree with you, I'm just pulling the trigger on that development since it's about opportunity for change and seeing where things will go which is also why this thread exists
>have you ever thought why does bant have so many slavs, mainly russians now? google "time preference". in short,I had some views like this until recently but a person who follows me around pointed out that white-white boys did a very poor job with otaku culture and that the global south and twitter are doing a lot better even if they tend to knuckledrag, westoids didn't create anything lasting and allowed the status quo to become very bad which made me impulsively uphold and create these things
>volga germanThere's no one who saw eye to eye with me more but he hurt himself the most and isn't rich so he's currently focusing on what matters to his life and religious inclinations, I was doing some testing and flicked the site off for a minute months ago and he sent me a devastated message, he's sure we're fine here and posted yesterday but it was buried under other traffic
No.4928
>>4927Old 4chan culture is a bit better but still just okay and I wouldn't be elated to be in it, everything was right place right time and nothing remained except for good parts of 4chan which would chalk up to interesting pockets on /a/ /tv/ and /v/, the japanese and chinese have always had it magnitudes better and have for longer, I reject western standards and glue together what I can to see if westerners can do anything since I'm the only person able and there's going to be nothing after this, the original bintoids and some immigrants here are educated and interesting westerners (absolute rarity) so if westerners can do anything it lives and dies with wherever this site goes
>rika from higurashi smoking weed in a thongYou choose to look at the lowest common denominator and upset yourself, also, I stated they tend to knuckle drag, giving up on imageboards for twitter is okay (especially since it has what chads like and imageboards lost the majority of that), just unfulfilling since they're not bright, hence people juggle both to have content and socialization
No.4929
>>4927>rika from higurashi smoking weed in a thongi need proof of this
No.4931
>>4928>the japanese and chinese have always had it magnitudes better and have for longer,gee i wonder, its almost like they invented otaku culture or anime fandoms. no shit sherlock.
>I reject western standards and glue together what I can to see if westerners can do anythingRejecting western standards by promoting social media slop, racebaiting, and incessant white hatred. So much different than what academia, the media, politicians, etc. are doing wow…. We're looking at the next cultural paradigm shift in the making!
>since I'm the only person able and there's going to be nothing after this, the original bintoids and some immigrants here are educated and interesting westerners (absolute rarity) so if westerners can do anything it lives and dies with wherever this site goesah yes, hombre, the saviour of western trutaku truchan civilization. get over yourself, dude. you sound like you smoke the green a little too much, but that may just be hoping you aren't this genuinely delusional sober
No.4935
Mkay the first half of this thread was useful but the soybaba pulled up and it's not so productive, the main board will probably go back to being stable but slow
>>4934angel I am so sorry
No.4937
>>4828Somewhat useless question but can you provide you definition of ‘Groypers’
No.4939
>>4936The one who started cockfighting in this thread
I think soibaba touhou fans have good personalities
>>4937The term means right wing people on twitter who follow nick fuentes, but I use the term to refer to incredibly inept, unintelligent and mentally unstable right wing people, because it's a widespread issue online these years
No.4940
you know what we need more shitboards
when is /j4/ through /j7/
No.4945
Okay there were 600 posts today and there's a large demographic of it which is spam sure but it's like we built back better okay
No.4949
>>4948I didn't notice it so boom hats off