Today is Mvssolini's 142nd birthday. You WILL wish Il Dvce his very happy birthday. You WILL raise a roman salute and say 'ViVa Il Dvce!' at the end of the 'Happy Birthday Song'. You WILL honor his excellency by dressing similar to how Nazrin is dressed in picrel 2. (Skirt & Caplet not necessary but I know some of you bantggots would love that.) You WILL be happy for him.
>>393186 mussolini wasn't really a bad person so much as he was an incompetent douchebag. in a lot of ways, his crime was naivety. he had big aspirations and a lot of them were imperialistic or revanchist which is bad I suppose, but il duce never had the mettle to make it work in the first place. the biggest thing mus did wrong methinks is pave the way for hitler. fascism itself is anti-democratic and that's kind of a problem for any state that wants to be successful because for all the shit you can say about democracy, the constant churn of the will of the people keeps society structurally stable and prevents the shocks seen in auth societies when leader A dies and leader B suddenly has massive shoes to fill.
but yeah mus was just a dummy, he put all his personal friends in power and drove italy into the ground on the basis of being ebin based and trad and self-sufficient which is why niggas were making pies out of chestnuts and such. i think he probably didnt deserve the piano wire, shoulda been hitler who got that but he took the pussy's way out so he never got his comeuppance unfortunately. then again im not exactly crying, play stupid games win stupid crimes. he seemed like a guy with good (or at least not explicitly evil) intentions to me but ital style fascism suffers from being structurally stupid, not evil.
imo. i dont know shit about italian history on the granular level so i could be incorrect but that's my theory on why ur not supposed to like mus
yall niggaz need to understand that nothing matters besides briging your own natge to the next level of tech advancement. both lenin and hitler did wonders ot bring russia and germany into the next century. every communist revolution has been a nationalist project into bringing their countries into the big playing filed of industrial progress (despite cambodia which were retards) (cube started up alright but failed to secure popuçar support and ended up yet another westard resort isle now). seems nobody can do this right but asians. china played it smart, being the resource monsters that they are, vietnam simply adapted to their whereabouts, though considering everything singapure had the smartest idea siding with nato.
after asking ai apparently mussolini did some terrible shit, most notably the blackshirts assassinated people, and in Afrique the Italian military apparently gassed civilians. it says the shitalians also participated in the holocaust by enacting antisemitic laws but I think (by intuition, i have no proof of this) that because this was done in 1938, it was done mostly due to pressure from (((Hitler))) and I think mus personally probably didn't have anything against any ethnic group, as "We are all Italians :D" seemed to be the predominant ethos of the ideology will do more research into Italy albeit western European history is the most boring shit in the universe except Britain
>>393195 if you look deep enough every military everywhere has comitted warcrimes. its all a matter of if brings (You), the stakeholder, any advantage or not.
i find some of mussolini's quotes perfectly reflect how the people of italy viewed and grasped his image. one of his quotes "If I advance; follow me. If I retreat; kill me. If I die; avenge me!" is like he himself is swearing an oath, and in a way, he did follow it. what made the italian people still continue to like him even as he was slipping and sliding was that they were still endowed by his message and leadership. its why thousands of people still flocked to hear his speeches, even in times of turmoil. they put faith in him and trusted him, just as much as he trusted them to his (not official but still set in stone) oath. a good example is "Yes, a dictator can be loved. Provided that the masses fear him at the same time. The crowd love strong men. The crowd is like a woman." which showcases that the italian people feared his authority, which is exactly why they loved him. he encapsulated what they wanted out of a leader. he was the leader they wanted, the true antithesis of everything they had came to rigorously dislike.
>>393198 i feel the one split between fascism and socialism is the maintenance of the current structures of power. maybe it's not as relevant in current century but the one difference between a conservative or progressive revolution (besides the general customs) are about the transfers of power (as within democracy but nonetheless). so, do you want a trad structured society or a liberal "unstructured" society (as far as it relates to the commoners, the ruling class is usually the sanme either/or).
>>393197 I dont agree on a moral level Just because it's a reality of war doesn't make it right. War is evil precisely because it is never clean and crimes are always committed by every side, there are rarely good guys and bad guys in a conflict, simply young men killing one another and often whomever they feel like, because they are coerced by the state to coerce the enemy into capitulation. or something
>>393203 conflict in its epistemological sense ontologicallyu evil yet inevitable, you must choose to hurt your fellow men to defend your ideals, if you truly belive in them, yet even your own life.
>>393203 >I dont agree on a moral level i meant that objectively as within the current market "market" logic the knownm wourld has operated under the last feel centuries. belive me, i would love to live in a world where money is no longer a factot causing strife between people, and i say this as a thrall of the financier class.
>>393202 lots of people forget that fascism isnt inherently putting itself on the a or right scale. a large part of it is "third positionism", the belief in an alternative outside of the two major sides, almost always liberalism and conservatism. its supposed to be an alternative to the formations provided by pre-existing sides and seeks to remove both from taking power (blackshirt beating up opposition go brrrrrrrrr) <banty spacing its supposed to be a solution to the ails of interchanging power and structure see-sawing back and forth with liberalism and conservatism- oh gee would you look at that it's DEMOCRACY the people were happy with mussolini because his advertised method of structure wasnt dynamic, it was static and fixed; unchangeable.
>>393208 both fascism and socialism orignate, in my view (besides their syndicalist origins) as a response to a failure of liberal capilatism to thrive (Which is intended, but unfortunate for the commoners). Soyciety could be simpy fixed in a multitude of ways (besides identitarianism, lol) but there is simply no incentive in neither the profit motive nor public administration to fix up the shit we are in.
we're so wrapped up in potentially not so useless nigger politics that i only now just remembered that we forgot to wish Il Dvce his very important HAPPY BIRTHDAY
>>393205 this is true and i was going to follow up by saying that it is sometimes necessary to fight in order to prevent greater evils, ww2 is actually a great example. every single allied faction was responsible for unacceptable war crimes and as a state you are responsible for the actions of your soldiers but id still say that fighting ww2 was the right thing to do and a necessity to prevent the disease of Nazism from overtaking all of Europe and potentially everywhere else. not that the victims were "acceptable casualties", but that there is a micro and a macro conflict. ultimately war is always doing evil to good ends and i think the ends achieved were good enough that they outweigh the evil done in service of them, was kinda my point. when you point to modern conflicts, though, they tend to be far less ideological and more cynical (and i believe this is indirectly a product of the internet and capitalism more broadly, but that's a different discussion) such as the Israel-Palestine conflict. YSRL says they're defending themselves, reclaiming historical land, etc, but it's call cope to cover up that the entire war is just a colonial project, because owning more land gives them more leverage as a nation, which has economic implications. That's my reading of it, anyways, and if I'm correct, then the conflict itself is immoral on the macro level and so immoral micro conduct is much, much less excusable, or more inexcusable, to be proper. >>393207 I suppose. The way I see it, and I realize I'm in the minority here, the world should really be coming together. I believe the cold war, for example, was mostly unnecessary. Now, it's very often said, when the unnecessarity of it is brought up, that it was essentially NATO fearmongering to expand their influence, but I think NATO really just opportunistically capitalized on it, and the Soviets were equally responsible. I would have liked a world where NATO and the USSR coexisted as simply peoples with a different way of handling the economy but that sadly didn't pan out; Stalin had plenty of reason to feel that way bcs the Western Allies kept cucking him constantly throughout the war, but he was also a genocidal dictator so I don't really blame them *too* harshly for cutting him out of certain deals etc. Anyways, my point is, I certainly don't look, or find it very odious on a personal level, to look at wars, such as the Iran conflict, as "how can this benefit me?" - if Trump somehow ends up winning this bullshit and it results in the cheapest gas has ever been or something, it'd still suck. People died for that. >inb4 I was talking about how states see war, not people but at the end of the day every (modern) state is beholden to the people in some way or another, except like North Korea. Even in a place like Russia, the Ukraine conflict only continues because Putin's supporters are basically MAGA level indoctrinated and his opponents know shit won't get done without a majority. but Russia has been having major problems with, for example, gasoline lately, so the tides may be turning, and that's definitely causing Putin to sweat. My point is compliance with a war is a function of the people's view on it, and I think many people have been psyopped, and allowed themselves to be, because society is about self-centered convenience now, into the market view of warfare.
>>393209 >Soyciety could be simpy fixed in a multitude of ways (besides identitarianism, lol) but there is simply no incentive in neither the profit motive nor public administration to fix up the shit we are in. no argument there. representatives are bought and paid for ili chto-to
>>393211 not even antisocial as in being shy or whatever but being generally unproductive and the like. but i guess everyone wants to be an epic revolutionary now! #HappyBirthdayMvssolini
>>393211 its beccuse we cant thrive under indivudualist societies built for socialmaxxed chads sclike modern liberal capitalism. even doe im a govt worker because i passed the iq test. but im still empathetic towards my fellow paranoid schizo retards. nobody shoud suffer through manual labor like i did before landing this sweet gig.
>>393213 > I believe the cold war, for example, was mostly unnecessary yes it was in the humane meaning of it, but it was absolutely necessary so the 20th-21st century worldpowe dicks could measure each other, no matter the civvie casualties. maybe not directly referring your text but, to be honest: lenin was the last decent ruler russia had, his modernizatgion plans had some blunders but it would have gone fine had policitization (stalin) not taken over ot after he died. and i would claim that as the death of historical communism as a viable ideology, not by its theoretical worth but its history, its simply no longer viable nowadays. even then it has become as split and politicized as fucking democrat liberal capitalists. as so, the only option left of us thirdies in realpolitik is to side with the CCP in hopes of a better furte, which for sure we know NATO wont grant. nonetheless, the march of 20th century communsim is over, we as workers must focus on a sustainable future for mankind in our own path. learn from the errors of the past and do not repeat their mistakes. "forgive your enemies, but, remember their names" - kennedy, fives, blops1
i truly am unsure if mankind is capable of such responsibility unless coordinated by a militaristic (see: fascist) government, momijipidor. as they say, within every "fascist" there is a disappointed "leftist".
>>393221 >lenin was the last decent ruler russia had, trvth supernova, although I'd argue Khruschev got pretty close to being a good leader >and i would claim that as the death of historical communism as a viable ideology, not by its theoretical worth but its history, its simply no longer viable nowadays. >even then it has become as split and politicized as fucking democrat liberal capitalists. again trve, although I hold out some hope, soc movements in evropa and in some places in america are fluorishing atm, the issue with many socs at least here in the states is many are performative reddit niggers who get their politics mainly from people like hasan. >as so, the only option left of us thirdies in realpolitik is to side with the CCP in hopes of a better furte, I do not agree. The CCP is the ultimate culmination of everything wrong with authoritarian government, imo. I maintain that they are a fascist state wearing communism as a skin suit. >we as workers must focus on a sustainable future for mankind in our own path. >learn from the errors of the past and do not repeat their mistakes. Again, I think mankind is kinda slowly beginning to heal and come around to a more humanistic way of thinking. I think all the bullshit of the past 10 years (the epstein files, the rise of right-wing populism, the general lack of human connection people feel right now) has left people with a sense of wrongness and yearning for something better, even if most normies can't articulate it. it's more prominent with the young'ns, as Gen X and above sees the degredation of what they think is the world they've always known, when in fact it isn't, but they cling onto the past anyways, as is natural. >>393226 Like I said above, I think by the time I'm in my 40s, things will have healed a bit. I don't think things will ever be "okay again" within our lifetimes because the powers that be are so thoroughly entrenched, but people trust them less than ever these days. The issue is making sure the 0.1% don't use the governments as a scapegoat (complicit as they may be) for all the world's problems. But people are turning towards dumb tech, environmental stability, and towards seeing rw populism for what it is, slogans and buzzwords. I don't think we should sit on our hands or anything, but I do thing the trajectory is an upwards one. Just food for thought. >>393227 i was typing habibi and trying to find the source image for the uruguayan in picrel
>>393228 as long as its not parasiteguayns award. historical jokes aside, maybe the workers uprising is truly inevitable. in the sense that gAyI can never truly substitute human expertise. in the meantime, anyaway. i stil catch erros when doing my college assignments (i use gAyI to generate texts then revise and it edit it witht only relevant info). NONETHELESS i thing mankind is yet to adapt to these new factors, future of employmet will be crazy. i fear for my (former) warehouse wagecuck lads.
>>393233 Really? I thought every single Brazilian looked and acted like those niggas from MW2 >>393231 fuck AI i think im too tired and youre too drunk to have a conversation about this its 12:30 AM for me so I am going to sleep but yeah no AI is gonna pop at some point. People are gonna get fed up with being jobless especially in THIS economy.
anyways, check this out. old us army recruitment. when did we stop doing fun little songs and stuff? >erm but that fun little song represents military adventurism yeah. but so do army ads today. the only difference is they're all retarded and self-serious: >In the Army... Be who you can become... Achieve self-fulfillment... Complete the objective... As the best version of your inner self... And shit like that. >US Army: Forged in the fire >Ready to take the challenge? www.goarmy.com
>>393238 mussie had the right ideas about workers rights but he chose the wrongh alleigeances. cant blame him for invading norf afrika doe them bitches be hawt as fuark bruh.
i thik fascism could work now in souf amerika, imagine if you announced to the people "we will get rid of all cartels and allow you to sleep without fear of a firefigh in your hood (because we have increased military peronnel paycheck to a decent living wage)", everyone would unanimously vote for that party. who doesn want more security in the streets, realy? westards frame this as bad but i honestly wished every schoolroom had at least one cop to beat up any punk disrespecting (and often trying to assassinate) teachers in the classroom.
>>394066 fascism is the designated political system for all catholic influenced latinic people. the problem is that first we must get rid of the insanae commie faggots who insist in importing shit from social democratic protestant aids hidden countries and evangelical cuckolds importing shit from the us poluting all of politics and that will be impossible. thats why every time i answer a plitical test i do it through a point of view of me as the estate/dictator because sadly, no political movement right now can accurately represent our points of view
>>394068 not a single current political party is striving towards developing brapzil as an idustral nation, both PTcommies and PLliburls are willing to sell out our riches to either China or the USA. as much as this sounds stereotypical to counter-cultiralists of the 21st century: Eneas was right, we SHOULD have developed a nuclear program to ensure our place as a world power in the geopolitical space, diplomacy is not enough. The pink wave of the coldwar era will fade as soon as boomers are dead, and a new kind of common/class consciousness will emerge.
>>394072 considerando todos os fatos, a única revolução viável ao brapzil seria conservadora e socialista, em essência. Precisarias de uma forte vertente popular (católica e pobre) forçando os empresários a se submeterem ao poder do estado, forçando-os a se adaptar a uma estrutura de mercado altamente regulada e inclusiva aos trabalhadores. porêm, defendendo as teses de livre mercado entre indivíduos e pequenos empresários. não proponho a exterminar a classe capitalista, mas obrigar-las a contribuir com a nação a um todo, em vez de dirigir seu lucro a contas off-shore na suíça pra fugir do leão. tl;dre: mais controles às grandes indústrias, menos regulamentos as pessoas físicas e pequenos empresários.
>>394074 ainda sim as novas gerações são atraídas pela estética comunista ou fascista, o objetive é assimilar os pontos comuns entre ambos (anti-capitalismo, direitos trabalhadores, etc) e formar uma nova consciência politica: uma realpolitik latina.
>>394066 Different places and times call for different political systems so I'm not opposed to the fundamental idea; capitalism can work in America and socialism can work in Vietnam or something. I wouldn't necessarily prescribe fascism for South America but I think the pink wave was timed badly, I'm not positive where it comes from as South American history is not my forte but it seems like the kinda thing that was thought up sometime between the mid 90s and mid 2000s and assumed the world would just keep getting better, which obviously didn't pan out. I do think crime more than anything else is what's holding South America back from being good places to be (exceptions exist obviously, I hear there are some nice places in Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico City is pretty good from what I hear; Costa Rica, Belize, some other places. The way I hear it Cuba would be pretty outstanding if Uncle Sam wasn't constantly meddling, sympathetic to Cuba as I am it kinda sounds like tankie propaganda imo) so again I'm in favor of crackdowns.
Part of the issue is the voter, methinks. In the information age I think many people aren't looking for moderates who are gonna take legalistic or procedural steps to curb crime, that is, making it harder for criminals to operate in society, increasing police funding, anti-corruption, targeted investigation and raids, etc., and are more inclined to vote for fashy niggas like B*kele who will "drop the hammer" on criminals >inb4 Bukele got dem streets clean doe!!!!! He cleaned up El Salvador in the same way an antibody cleans up gut. Yeah, he arrested a buncha criminals, no doubt, good on him, props, so on so forth, but he did that by just rounding up anybody who might be a criminal, or so I hear. He did this all while consolidating power so, while I haven't heard of any incidents of Bukele actually doing this, his model creates opportunities for less benevolent leaders to make themselves essentially generalissimos. >inb4 erm that's based doe until you have to live under it. the real world is not le based wehrmacht tiktok edit.
that said I ultimately think that however it's achieved, major and effective crime and corruption crackdowns are what's necessary to put Suramerica on the path towards having the standard of living necessary to begin European-style social policy.
It's a question, I think, of how many people need to get hurt and laws need to get broken along the way, and how we minimize that.
agora, de qual forma iremos conduzir essa revolução depende do momento histórico. em algumas épocas atrás, estariamos marchando tanto pele admiração ao facismo de Vargas como pela aproximação comunismo de Quadros. o que realmente importa é a empoderação do estado diante à ONU, OTAN e a CIS, mesmo sendo membro da BRICS.
didnt save the ebin ANAUE vid momijipidor has but its still ebin. i would forbut all cuntslosed from entering Brazil besides the pee-ess-double and the ex-bawks-360 becase no good games have come out since they were the top of the line.
>>393241 if he wanted North Africans, he could've just offered immigration incentives to Spaniards >>394072 reddit jackpot gif >>394071 Brazil with nukes would be a bit surreal and I worry it would start an arms race with the rest of South America
However, it would also throw a wrench into the Monroe Doctrine and liberate Suramerica from the gringo or something, which would be based methinks. So I'm not especially opposed to the idea
>>394085 it wouldnt caus eother sucas are dumb. if anything it would have maintainted our status as an empire. though us learning englihs or oter sudacas learning portuguesr would be either-or idk. i had spanish classes in HS i an can still barely understand what my venezuelan and uruguayan clients speak, it becomes a sort of guessing game until i understand what they want. we should force all immingrants to speak porch-of-geese as a rule to entering this cuntry.
>>394081 >Part of the issue is the voter, methinks. In the information age I think many people aren't looking for moderates who are gonna take legalistic or procedural steps to curb crime, that is, making it harder for criminals to operate in society, increasing police funding, anti-corruption, targeted investigation and raids, etc., and are more inclined to vote for fashy niggas like B*kele who will "drop the hammer" on criminals i agree as the goyim are inclined towards living in Derida's spectacle rather than objective reality, democracy could have worked fine had they not willingly left the open space for corruption. as each ideology is invalidated (leftist, liberal, cuckservative, etc) the only choice left is a hard fascst police state. yet, however, are you truly willing to trust manking after all of this? "are you really sure that the real you, is you?"
>>394066 "in your hood" i say as a transitory measure because favelas should be demolished and their denizens reallocated into state-owned reappropriated condos. >>394072 wouldnt you agreee?
>>394093 You either do this by hand or you don't I used the bucket tool to clear the outer edges and some parts of her hair along with the biggest trails left by it and added and alpha channel. Your image has been raped by compression so it cannot be easily converted to a clean png
>>394097 I shouldn't and I will ==not== unless if I get my hands on the original image without any compression artifacts - then I could spend some time on it On the 'anty we're all about data preservation.
mussli thread so lets remember the invasion of norf afrika wasnt just for lulz, see historical pawnage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Ethiopian_War >Crimes by Ethiopian troops included the use of dumdum bullets (in violation of the Hague Conventions), the killing of civilian workmen (including during the Gondrand massacre) and the mutilation of captured Eritrean Ascari and Italians (often with castration).[21][22] darkies are evil award. not beating the allegations award.
>>393195 >and in Afrique the Italian military apparently gassed civilians. Chemical warfare like that always was kinda retarded tbh. The reason nations back then agreed to that as a clause in the Geneva Conventions so easily is well fun fact when you create a big toxic fog to kill your enemies guess what happens when the wind changes direction towards (You) because in that case you better be sure ya'll have some quality CBRN gear on the ready. Same shit with Agent Orange in Vietnam, sure we fucked up some NVA as well as a ton of civilians who had fuck all to do with the conflict an just wanted to grow rice an chill but it also fucked up a lot of American GI's too when they themselves ended up covered in blisters and boils an got cancer an sheeit not that our leaders gave a shit of course, thanks for your service.
But yeah Mussolini was probably just gassing the African equivalent of Afghanistan (Ethiopia) as a coping mechanism when he realized he wouldn't achieve the greater Somalia project and losing to folks who were sometimes even using black powder cannons an flintlocks as well as a bunch of old ass Lebel rifles is probably kinda embarrassing when on paper he had the superior army BUT geography a bitch and a mean one too.
Fun fact Royal Tiger Armory gets like half of their Milsurp from Ethiopia. Great place to get a ancient gun or parts for said ancient gun so you can NOT shoot it because barely anyone makes ammo for them anymore.
>>393195 Also yeah something something Lombardy Veneto and Sicily never wanted to be part of Italy to begin with so it's not surprising that half of the population would turn on Benito and side with the US and Mi6 backed Mafia.
Libyans were quite fond of Mussolini though apparently, even gifted him a cool sword. They were probably just sick and tired of the French/British though.
Okay REAL TALK though, I heckin love these little tankettes. They're so cute and wholesomeerino even if they were rather antiquated by the time they started getting rolled out.
>>397509 Rome is long gone my Brapzilian fren and the natives who actually live there should in my personal opinion have a say. Same with Flanderland Khalistan Baluchistan and Tibet. I of course have a preference to peaceful separation when it's an option though, I'm not a psychopath.
