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 No. 399504 >>400314

Delete /pol/.

 No. 399505 >>399510

relegalise slavery.

 No. 399510 >>399526

>The number of deaths from natural disasters is 25% of what it was 100 years ago.
While this represents a respectable decrease in fatalities, the rising frequency of natural events continues to present an environmental and regulatory challenge to humanity.
>Just 7% of the world's population lived in a free or relatively free society in 1850. Today that number is closer to two-thirds.
Judging purely by personal liberties in the libertarian sense, sure. The majority of Western countries constitute a "free or relatively free society". However, without a clear definition of this term, question are raised; for example, many de jure global organizations find themselves at the de facto behest of Western interests, allowing particularly the United States to declare, through these organizations, a particular country to be less-than-free: Take, for example, Cuba, which is freer than many Western nations when considering the metric of daily economic coercion (that is, utilities, rent, the like), but significantly less free in terms of its markets and liberties attached to commerce, due in part to its own policy and in part to a decades long embargo. This is how someplace like, for example, Singapore, may score highly on freedom scores while Cuba scores low. Additionally, even assuming an optimistic definition of free society, considering the span of time (1850-2026), two-thirds is not an exceptionally impressive rate of progress.
>Time spent on laundry fell from 11.5 hours a week in 1920 to 1.5 hours in 2014.
Meaning more time to work. Hardly utopian.
>nuclear stockpiles
>violent crime
Correct actually.
>Over the last 20 years, the proportion of people living in extreme poverty has almost been cut in half.
A large portion of which are citizens of the People's Republic of China, who can publish such numbers declaring they've defeated poverty, by simply lowering the poverty line.
:boom:
>>399505
This can be done and it can be done ethically for society. Through the implementation of a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the benevolent institution of the gulag, we can educate the kulaks on the toil of the proletariat, essentially turning them into upstanding revolutionary citizens, and benefiting from the labor produced by their educational journey for an extremely reduced cost.

 No. 399526 >>399719

>>399510
>This can be done and it can be done ethically for society. Through the implementation of a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the benevolent institution of the gulag, we can educate the kulaks on the toil of the proletariat, essentially turning them into upstanding revolutionary citizens, and benefiting from the labor produced by their educational journey for an extremely reduced cost.
while I understand where you're coming from, given our opposed ideologies, personally I think conviction to slavery shouldn't be purely from circumstance, but by one's actions. in the case of debtors who intentional delinquent on their repayment it should be fine to enslave them, and same for criminals guilty of violent and more egregious property crimes, from willful damage to murder. the commie shit makes no sense to me. punishing someone based on they circumstances, be they richer or poorer makes no sense to me.

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>>399526
Comrade, it is not circumstance. Who is born into being a landlord? Who is incidentally made a predatory lender? The oppression of the common people is invariably a conscious decision, like any crime. Of course, the rot of the bourgeoisie extends far beyond their own actions, into their children and representatives, who, from a materialist perspective, have been raised up in a system which teaches them kulakism is correct, and will receive their own, albeit reduced, educational sentences, for the benefit of the working people, of course. As a matter of pedantism, "slavery" is such a barbaric term, we prefer to say such individuals are compelled to contribute to the revolution.
>the commie shit makes no sense to me. punishing someone based on they circumstances, be they richer or poorer makes no sense to me.
Do you think I'm actually advocating for gulags? Lol
It's only joke

I'm stretching it above but the basic theory is that you really don't amass and sustain huge amounts of wealth by accident, generally speaking. It's an intentional thing and it takes pie away from the poors, and most rich people don't even bother to do anything good with it. Shit floats to the top and all that. You could say the rich and corporations aren't obligated to do anything good with their wealth but
1.) That's a pretty recent way of thinking, it only really came about with the advent of Reaganomics. Up to that point, while corpos were no angels, there was at least a societal expectation (in the States at least) that they give back to their local communities in some way.
2.) They technically aren't, sure, but that's like if we're kids and I tell you you've been on the Xbox for an hour and you tell me you're not obligated to pass me the controller. True, but it doesn't make it any less shitty. While it's important to respect legal rights, all rights are ultimately derived from a bunch of people sitting down in a room, usually very long ago, and deciding what is and is not morally reasonable for a person to do. My point is it's kind of bullshit to be like "but muh right to free enterprise" when rights are fundamentally just the exact rules which we use to convey simple ideas (as an example, if the law was "don't steal" rather than specifically theft, larceny, etc., we'd have a very difficult time defining what "stealing" is.) and simple ideas of what is and is not acceptable in a society change over time.

Through that lens, the Soviets for example classified... being too rich, or more accurately being a landlord in a serf system, as being equivalent to being a slave owner or stealing from the people as a collective. Do I agree? No. It's hard to take the Soviet Union, especially the early Soviet Union, as a moral authority on just about anything, and in reality, obviously, gulags were just where the Soviets shoved anybody they didn't like and told them to work to death.

 No. 400314 >>400561

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>>399504 (OP)
Nu-/pol/ sucks, it's like 90% bots now making the same bait threads to bury legitimate organic threads and Ron Paul is barely ever mentioned there anymore meaning it's also just flat out spiritually dead too.

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 No. 400561 >>400971

>>400314
i would post the one image where its just the reddit screenshot of the "fellow ladypedes on pol"

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>>400561
I don't have that one.
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