they are one in the same
chuds are normies who got wise to the tricks of the elite and then immediately fell for their misdirection, which makes them barely above normies.
generally, though, you escape normiedom when you learn to detach yourself from political tribalism and the idea that life is all about working until 65 and then retiring to florida, drinking and watching football until you die. if you have any ambition beyond working for yourself, and/or recognize that something is up and have the self-restraint to not immediately turn your brain off and ascribe it to some nebulous demographic boogeyman, you are no longer a normie, congrats.
>>404966this is true btw. soyniggers are responsible for a significant portion of them because every normalfag who wants to feel like an ebin imageboard 4chan hacker man wizard defaults to shitjak.sewer, as it's the most accessible to normies of all the imageboards. it used to be that maymays, culture, sayings, etc flowed down from 4chan to places that acted as go-betweens for wizards and normies, like reddit (bear in mind, I'm talking about old reddit), before gradually becoming introduced to the normiesphere. even then it was generally so that normies could larp as ebin 4chan wizards, which was mostly harmless. now things are so fast and so retarded that the line between board and normie culture is getting blurred, case in point, youtubers saying foyim.